WORST Deadlift Ever?! How to Set Your Back: Part 5

Still Having This Problem?
Do you have a nasty-looking, rounded back when you deadlift? That’s no good, so let’s fix it. Welcome back to our series on how to set your back in flat, rigid extension when you pull from the floor. In the previous four articles, we covered the cues “squeeze your chest up” (Part 1), “push your belly down between your thighs” (Part 2), “wrinkles in your shirt” (Part 3), as well as the anatomically blunt cue, “point your rectum at the wall” (Part 4).

Figure 1: Joy demonstrates a back set rigidly in extension.

If you still struggle to set your back correctly, then the drill presented in this article (the last article in the series) might just help you out. Specifically, you’re going to set your back incorrectly to then help yourself set it correctly. In other words, you’re going to do it wrong to help yourself get it right.

Don’t Jump the Gun
Before we dive into that process, however, be sure to read the previously mentioned articles and try out the relevant cues first. Executing a cue is a simpler and quicker process than performing a drill, so if a cue will do the job, all the better. If cues aren’t working for you, and your back still looks like a camel’s hump, then it’s time to try the following drill (and I’d recommend watching the video below to see this drill in action).

The Setup
Set the barbell on the safeties (Figure 2) inside your squat rack at such a height that the bar sits just below your kneecaps (if you need to start slightly higher, that’s fine as well).

Figure 2

Load a very manageable amount of weight on the bar. You don’t need a lot, but you need enough weight that the bar doesn’t easily move when you start to apply upward tension.

Set up as you would for a deadlift or rack pull, i.e., with the bar positioned over the midfoot, so you’ll need to stand very close to the bar. At this below-the-knee height, you’ll have roughly vertical shins in contact with the bar if you’re set up correctly.

figure 3: his back is in flexion (i.e., rounded).

“Round the Back”
With your hands gripping the bar in their normal deadlift spacing, start with your back in flexion (Figure 3). In other words, start with your back rounded, which is usually an easy position to achieve, especially if you’re struggling with the problem of extending your back anyway. To do this, cue yourself, “round the back.” If it helps, imagine making your back look like a mountain. 

Note that the bar is over the middle of your foot, your shins are touching the bar, and here’s the important point for what you’re about to do next: everything from your hips on down does not move. Your butt doesn’t drop, your knees don’t move, your shins don’t move, and the barbell certainly doesn’t move. 

“Flatten the Back”
Now, tell yourself to “flatten the back,” “extend the back,” or “push the belly down between the thighs.” It’s easier to achieve a flat back (Figure 4) when the bar is higher up from the floor than a normal deadlift, so you’re in a position where you’ll actually be able to accomplish this.

figure 4: his back is in extension (i.e., flat).

If necessary, you can use the cue “arch the back” or imagine making your back look like a valley, i.e., the opposite of the mountain image you used when rounding the back. An arched back (or “overextension”) is not actually what you want - this is an example of an overcue - but it can be a useful mental picture when trying to achieve a flat back.

Alternate
Perform a set of five reps wherein each rep consists of you starting with a rounded back, moving to a flat back, and then back to a rounded back. In other words, you are alternating between the incorrect position (rounded back) and the correct position (flat back).

By starting each rep with a rounded back, you’re allowing yourself to then simply do the opposite movement to get into the correct position.  As stated earlier, you’re doing it wrong to get it right. You learn where you don’t want your back to be, and that helps you get your back into the correct position.

Moving On Down
If you can achieve a flat back for a set of five reps from this initial height - and you’ll need to record yourself on video to check if you are doing so - then you graduate to the next, lower pin setting. Do another five reps, and when you can achieve a flat back at that pin height, keep going lower, repeating the process until you’re pulling from the floor with a straight back.

As always, we hope this helps you get stronger and live better.

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Correct Setup for Squat & Press: STOP Making This Mistake!

You don't need to walk a mile back from the rack to squat or press. Keep your setup simple and concise.

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12 Pieces of Lifting Gear to THROW AWAY (and What to Replace Them With)

What pieces of weight lifting equipment would gym owner and Starting Strength Coach Phil Meggers throw away and what would he replace them with?


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The Testify Star - April 29, 2024

THIS WEEK'S SUBMISSION

From our video How to Safely Bench Press Alone! (click the title to watch):

dingle22
Would it be safe If I leave clips off of the bench press, so that if I fail I can just slide the weights off each side? I don't have access to a squat rack like that atm

Phil
Good question. It will be safer without the clips than with the clips (and we always bench without clips at Testify as a back-up safety feature) in the sense that, if you're benching without a spotter, you fail a rep, and the bar ends up back on your chest, you can do exactly what you described - tip the bar to one side, the plates slide off, tip the bar to the other side (which it will do anyway once one side is unloaded), the plates slide off again, and you're safe. It's loud and potentially embarrassing (and hopefully nobody is standing where the plates will land), but you're alive, which is key.

However, the most dangerous part of the bench press is when the bar is positioned over your neck or face, i.e., the unrack at the beginning of a set, the rerack at the end of a set, or on a rep where you accidentally push the bar too far back. It's dangerous for two reasons - 1) if a bar ends up on your face or neck, it could do serious damage and actually kill you, and 2) you're in a mechanically disadvantaged position since the bar isn't directly over your shoulders. The absence of clips doesn't help this situation much if at all. It's true that you might still be able to dump the bar, but the loaded bar will have already landed on your face and/or neck, and it's highly likely the damage will already have been done.

For this reason, if you don't have a rack that can be set with safeties when benching, then I'd strongly recommend getting a spotter. Even with safeties, spotters are very handy for unracks and reracks.

Long response, but I hope it was useful.

dingle22
@TestifySC  Yes very helpful, thank you so much!!

Phil
You're very welcome!


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ARTICLES & VIDEOS

1 Minute Tutorial: Learn to SQUAT
Learn to squat in 60 seconds! We cover the basics of the squat in a straightforward manner. Click here to watch.

 

Lifting Gear: What to Wear and What NOT to Wear!
What should you wear when lifting weights? What should you NOT wear? This is the first article in the "Lifting Gear" series. Click here to read.

 

Blast from the Past: The Bench Press: You're Doing This Wrong.
You’re ready to bench - your grip is pronated, you’ve got your focal point, and you're driving with your legs, but you’re forgetting one thing - Phil explains. Click here to watch.

 

Blast from the Past: The Squat: Vertical Will Happen . . . Eventually.
A common problem in the squat is that of trying to make the back angle more vertical right away in the ascent. Let’s fix this. Click here to read.


NEW TESTIFY HOODIES ARE AVAILABLE!

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WHAT'S COMING UP

Reminder: We will be closed for training on Saturday, 05/11/24, as we are hosting the annual Testify Barbell MAYhem meet.

Below are a few of our upcoming events, and you can find out what else is on the calendar by heading to our events page at www.testifysc.com/events.

Starting Strength Self-Sufficient Lifter Camp

  • May 18, 2024

  • Spend the day learning the Squat, Press, and Deadlift and how to self-evaluate your lifts while training in your garage or commercial gym without a coach.

  • Click here to register or for more information.

Testify Strongman Summer Showdown

  • June 22, 2024

  • Show up to lift, throw, carry, push, and pull big things, but most importantly, show up to have a great time with your fellow competitors and perhaps try something new!

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Testify IronFest VI

  • July 12, 2024

  • IronFest is a team-based strength meet wherein the contested lifts will be the squat, press, bench press, and deadlift. Competitors will form teams of 2 lifters/team and perform all 4 lifts; each lifter will perform one upper body lift and one lower body lift, and each lifter will receive 3 attempts for each lift.

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THIS WEEK’S CONDITIONING

Option 1
Sled Pyramid – 4, 5, or 6 tiers
Go up and down a 4, 5, or 6 tier “sled pyramid.” The distance for each round is 80 m indoors (a down-back on the 40m course) or 200 ft outdoors (2 down-backs on the 50 ft course). Rest as needed.

For example, Bob does the following (4 tiers):
Round 1: Empty sled
Round 2: 25#
Round 3: 50#
Round 4: 75#
Round 5: 50#
Round 6: 25#
Round 7: Empty sled

Compare to 2024.02.26.

Option 2
Bike/row:
5 min on
4 min off
4 min on
3 min off
3 min on
2 min off
2 min on
1 min off
1 min on

Record distance for each interval and add for total distance.

Compare to 2024.02.05.

Option 3
5-10 rounds of:
30 sec ME tire flips
30 sec rest

Compare to 2024.01.08.

Option 4
Sandbag-over-bars
Set yoke at #33 for women or #35 for men.
1. 1 minute AMRAP
2. 5 rounds of 2 reps every 2 minutes (speed!)
3. 1 minute AMRAP

Weights
Female under 40 years
140 lbs and under: 75 lbs
140.1 lbs – 185 lbs: 100 lbs
185.1 lbs and over: 150 lbs

Female 40 years and over
140 lbs and under: 50 lbs
185 lbs and under: 75 lbs
185.1 lbs and over: 100 lbs

Male under 40 years
185 lbs and under: 150 lbs
185.1 lbs – 235 lbs: 200 lbs
235.1 lbs and over: 250 lbs

Male 40 years and over
185 lbs and under: 100 lbs
185.1 lbs – 235 lbs: 150 lbs
235.1 lbs and over: 200 lbs

Compare to 2024.01.08.


As always, we hope this helps you get stronger and live better!

Lifting Gear: What to Wear and What NOT to Wear!

The topic of what to wear when training seems rather straightforward at first - you just put on a shirt, put on some shoes, probably put on some shorts as well, and you're good to go, right?

Not so fast. There’s a host of potential bad decisions to be made here, so let’s briefly (get it?) address a few considerations to help you train more effectively.

This is the first article in our “Lifting Gear” series, so be sure to check back in the coming weeks for future articles in the series.

Shirts
Whether you choose a t-shirt, a long-sleeved shirt, or a sweatshirt, they’re all fine, but the big takeaway here is cotton. Cotton is your best friend when it comes to training, and specifically, you don’t want a technical shirt, which is the type of shirt made from moisture-wicking material.

Tech shirts are great for running, playing basketball, etc., but they are terrible for lifting because the material itself tends to be rather slick. You want excellent friction between you and the barbell when squatting and cleaning, and you again want significant friction between you and the bench when bench pressing, and a tech shirt is simply awful in this regard. Wear cotton.

Additionally, if you’re squatting, benching, cleaning, or jerking (perhaps pressing as well), don’t wear a tank top. Humans are sweaty and oily when they train, and you don’t want your sweaty, oily, and therefore slick shoulders in contact with the bar or the bench when you train. Friction is important, so don’t wear a tank top. Unless you’re performing curls - tank tops are then, of course, mandatory.

Pants
Sweatpants, shorts, leggings - all of these are acceptable. You do, of course, want to make sure they allow you to move freely and don’t bind up on you, so if you’re wearing shorts, don’t wear shorts so long that they come to or below your knees. Shorts of this length tend to bind up at the knees when squatting (and should be reserved for 14-year-old male basketball players anyway), so they’re a bad choice.

the power diaper - Eat your heart out, people.

With that said, if your shorts are long, you can either roll them up a bit at the waistband or hike them up like I do and embrace the “power diaper” look (Figure 1). Granted, my shorts aren’t actually that long - I simply prefer the power diaper.

Socks
For the most part, any pair of athletic socks will do when training. The length of the sock doesn’t matter . . . unless you’re deadlifting, snatching, or cleaning. When pulling from the floor, you want to keep the bar as close as possible, but you also don’t want to nick your shins with the bar. Shins bleed easily, so I recommend wearing long socks if you’re not already wearing sweatpants or leggings.

By “long socks,” I mean over-the-calf-just-below-the-knee long socks. Don’t skimp here - once you’ve caught your shin with the bar, bled, and developed a scab, it’s extremely easy to break that scab open again during subsequent training sessions, and as a result, you won’t be as efficient at keeping the bar close to you (it might be a subconscious effect, but it’s a real effect, nonetheless).

Shoes
Wear lifting shoes. The most important feature of a lifting shoe is the rigid, nondeformable sole, which is extremely useful and efficient for force transfer. Regular shoes are great for walking and running but terrible for lifting - they are squishy and akin to lifting while standing on pillows. We have several videos that cover lifting shoes in depth, and I’d recommend watching one of those for more information.

Also, don’t lift in Chuck Taylors. A Chuck Taylor is not a lifting shoe. A Chuck Taylor is the shoe for someone who started thinking about lifting shoes but never completed the thought. Don’t lift in your squishy Chucks - you’re better than that.

As always, we hope this helps you get stronger and live better.

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The Bench Press: You're Doing This Wrong.

You’re ready to bench - your grip is pronated, you’ve got your focal point, and you're driving with your legs, but you’re forgetting one thing - Phil explains what it is and how to do it.

(A Blast from the Past video originally published on 05/16/22)


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